
Feedback in BDSM builds trust and safety. Here is how open communication changes everything, also when you book a gigolo.

Glossary
A form that starts with your heart rate and your phone number, and only then asks what you enjoy.
A sub-list is the filled-in questionnaire on which the person who receives marks, act by act, whether it is allowed. It is the Dutch scene form of the kinklist, but not the same paper: the forms that circulate here start with a medical block and let you fill in only yes or no per line.
| Who fills it in | only the receiving side; the mirror version is called the dom-list |
| What’s at the top | name, age, phone number, email, and a medical block |
| What you mark per line | yes or no. The circulating form has no maybe |
| What it’s for | a memory aid for whoever builds the scene, and a reason to ask further |
| Not to be confused with | the contract, which sets down agreements rather than taking stock of wishes |
| Biggest risk | that the paper replaces the conversation instead of opening it |
More like an intake form at the dentist than a wish list.
Take the form you can download at bdsmforyou.nl, the version most often forwarded in the Dutch-speaking world. Four pages. At the top of the first are your name, your gender, your age, your phone number, and your email address. Below that comes no act at all but a heading, Medical, with fifteen lines: heart conditions, pacemaker, diabetes, allergies, vascular problems, blood thinners, claustrophobia, breathing problems, epilepsy, breast implants, piercings, contagious blood diseases, smoking, drugs, and, right in the middle, “kneeling possible”.
That last line gives away where such a list comes from: a medical question that only gets asked inside a scene.
Only on page two does the play begin: types of play, bondage, masks, gags, clamps, impact play, medical play, and a closing block with everything that fit nowhere else. I counted the boxes. Across four pages there are one hundred and fifty times “O Yes O No” and zero times maybe. You get nuance in three places: the Experience line with the choice of a lot, moderate, little, or first time, and twice the question “mandatory or voluntary?”.
Not from the scene, and originally not from sub the person.
The Woordenboek der Nederlandsche Taal, the historical dictionary of Dutch, does not know the word: zero entries for sublijst, with verlanglijst (wish list) as the positive control. In the newspaper archive of the Koninklijke Bibliotheek, the National Library of the Netherlands, sublijst turns up five articles across a century and a half, against 11,453 for verlanglijst, and I read the scanned text of all five. None of them is about BDSM.
What they do share: everywhere it means a sub-list under a larger list. Three times it is an electoral list. Soest 1934, The Hague 1953, Curaçao 1994. Once it is Formula 1. And once, in Het vrije volk of October 19, 1951, it is about housing allocation: only those who “appear on the sub-list of the worst cases” still stand a chance of help.
So there sub- is the prefix “under”. In the scene the same letters stand for the person. Two words that look identical and have nothing to do with each other, and that explains why no one outside the scene understands what you mean.
Because ticking boxes goes faster than explaining, and because you can fill it in alone.
That is the honest pull: you don’t have to look anyone in the eye while you admit you are curious about something.
An agreement it is not. It shows what you ticked at the kitchen table on a quiet Tuesday evening, and nothing more.
“What you tick is what you want.” Those are two different things. In The Journal of Sex Research, Zoe D. Peterson and Charlene L. Muehlenhard showed that the common model, wanting and consenting as a single scale with two settings, conflates the two. Wanting is multidimensional, and you can want something without consenting and consent without wanting it. A box with only yes and no therefore records the consent and not the desire.
“A filled-in list predicts what you’ll want later.” No, and that has been measured. Dan Ariely and George Loewenstein put the same twenty questions to thirty-five male students twice: once at rest, once while they were aroused. On a scale from 0 (“no”) through 50 (“maybe”) to 100 (“yes”), “would it be fun to be tied up by your partner” moved from 63 to 81, “would it be fun to tie up your partner” from 47 to 75, and being spanked from 50 to 68. Sixteen of the twenty answers came out significantly higher. That is one sample, only men, only students, only hypothetical questions, but the question format is exactly that of a sub-list, and there is a second finding with it: people don’t see that shift coming in themselves.
“Whoever has the list knows enough.” The same researchers point to the flip side of it: anyone judging a person at rest underestimates what arousal changes. The person who reads your list reads it in a different state than the one you filled it in. That is why the check-in stays, however complete the paper is.
I am Victor, a gigolo, twenty-five years in BDSM and trained as a psychotherapist. Filled-in sub-lists get sent to me regularly, and there is one constant in them.
The medical block is almost always the most carelessly filled-in part. People race through it to get to the fun section, while that is exactly where the lines sit that really shape an evening. Blood thinners change what is possible with clamps, claustrophobia what is possible with a mask. And “kneeling possible” is so often a no that I ask about it by default when the box is empty.
The second thing I notice: almost nobody asks what happens to the paper. It has your name, your phone number, and your medical history on it, and it goes to someone you don’t know yet.
On this site, kinklist explains the blank, international list; negotiation covers how you then discuss such a filled-in sheet.
Off this site, the study by Ariely and Loewenstein is free to read; the table with the twenty questions says at a glance why a list is a snapshot.
My own version is shorter and sits on the inspiration page: tick what appeals to you, leave the rest. How the conversation goes after that is on the BDSM date page.
Frequently asked questions
Four pages, and the play only begins on page two. At the top are your name, age, phone number, and email address, and below that fifteen medical lines. From pacemaker and blood thinners to claustrophobia and “kneeling possible”. After that come types of play, bondage, gags, clamps, impact play, and medical play.
No. A tick is a starting point for the conversation, not an order to yourself and not standing consent. Research on arousal and judgment shows that the same questions in a different state produce different answers, so what you filled in at the kitchen table stands apart from what you want on the night itself. Your safeword sits above every box.
Victor, a gigolo with twenty-five years of experience in BDSM and a background as a psychotherapist. He gets filled-in lists sent to him regularly and, if you ask, will go through them with you calmly, even if you don’t dare tick a single box anywhere. Ask with no obligation through the contact form or chat for free first.
Blog
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I'm Victor. Most women who send me a sub-list send a sentence with it that starts with 'I don't know whether'. That's fine. You don't have to fill in anything to be able to ask something.
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