
Which kinds of humiliation do women find arousing in BDSM? I walk through the types, from verbal to physical to public, always safe and consensual.

Glossary
The only part of power play whose damage outside the bedroom has actually been measured.
Humiliation (Dutch: vernedering) is putting someone, with their consent, lower than the other, in posture, in rank or in words, because that drop is arousing for both. The Dutch word literally means to make lower. Within BDSM the drop lasts exactly as long as agreed. Outside that agreement, humiliation is one of the most heavily measured human experiences there is.
| Dutch term | vernedering; in the scene erotic humiliation |
| Literal meaning | ver- plus neder, to make lower; the WNT gives its oldest use as mountains, walls and water levels that drop |
| Also known as | erotic humiliation, and in its heavier form degradation; the branch that works with words alone is verbal humiliation |
| Not to be confused with | objectification, where the rank order falls away entirely and you’re no longer reckoned with |
| What the courts hang on it | in K.A. and A.D. v. Belgium (2005) the European Court weighed whether the agreed safeword had been honored |
| Main condition | one word that stops the evening, and someone who actually honors that word |
Humiliation is usually quieter than the word sounds, and often there’s no sentence in it.
A common picture is height itself. She kneels beside the chair, he sits in it, dressed, and for five minutes nothing special happens. He drinks his coffee and asks whether she slept well. Nothing is said about her. The height difference does the work, and that is exactly what the word announces literally.
A second picture works through rank instead of through height. That evening she asks permission for things adults never ask permission for: going to the toilet, having a drink, sitting down. The answer is almost always yes, and that is precisely what makes it clear who gives it. Women doing this for the first time often found the asking harder afterward than what came after.
Both pictures share something that looks unimportant on paper: a moment has been agreed at which it stops. Without that moment there is no drop but a condition.
From geometry, not from psychology. The Woordenboek der Nederlandsche Taal (the great dictionary of the Dutch language, WNT) derives vernederen from neder with the prefix ver-, and the first meaning it lists is entirely spatial: to make something of a certain height drop in height, and with hills, mountains and walls even to level it with the ground. The oldest source is the Liesveldt Bible of 1526: “Alle dal sal verheuen werden, ende alle berch ende hueuel sullen vernedert werden” (every valley shall be raised, and every mountain and hill shall be made low).
Below that stands a meaning anyone in a scene recognizes. The WNT also gives vernederen reflexively, said of people: to bow or kneel, to bend the upper body toward the ground. So the posture this play most often arrives at is the very act the word originally described.
The meaning we use the word for now sits only ninth in that same series: to dishonor, insult, hurt, wound, humiliate. Calepinus’ dictionary already translates the Latin humilio with vernederen in 1545, so the Dutch and the English word have run alongside each other longer than the scene itself has existed. And there’s a quotation from 1785, by Wolff and Deken, that sounds as if someone posted it on a forum yesterday: “Veele getrouwde Lieden scheppen een laag vermaak in elkander te vernederen” (many married people take a low pleasure in humiliating one another).
The nicest part sits in the noun. The WNT gives the first meaning of vernedering not as what one does to another, but as humility: a quality, a posture, in the religious sense meekness. So the word began as something you did with yourself and only later became something you do to another. That a woman today asks whether she may make herself smaller for an evening is, linguistically, the oldest meaning of all.
Because for a moment nothing is expected of you, and because it is the hardest-landing emotion you can borrow on purpose.
That the emotion lands hard has been measured. Marte Otten and Kai J. Jonas of the Social Psychology department at the University of Amsterdam had participants read scenarios that evoked humiliation, anger or joy, and measured their brain activity meanwhile. The late positive potential, a measure of the intensity of what someone feels, was clearly higher for the humiliation scenarios than for anger and for joy. They call it themselves the first clear evidence that humiliation is an unusually intense experience. So anyone who plays with it borrows the strongest dial there is, and that is why a small act does so much.
The payoff varies sharply by role.
The same literature shows why that matters. In Islington, George Brown, Tirril Harris and Catherine Hepworth compared women who developed depression with women who did not, and found that events involving humiliation and the feeling of being trapped went with a far greater risk of depression than loss or danger without those two. Kendler and colleagues took that measure to 7,322 adult twins and arrived at something sharper still: events where humiliation and loss come together turned out to weigh more heavily than loss alone, in whatever form the loss came. So humiliation restores no self-image. Anyone who has already felt worthless for months outside the bedroom is choosing the wrong month for this.
In three directions, and those three are already in the dictionary.
That three-way split is my own ordering of the meanings the WNT gathers under one word, not a scheme from a handbook. In practice the first direction usually happens with a small piece of the second added. The difference between a careful evening and a careless one sits in the way back, and with humiliation that is longer than with pain: count on hours instead of minutes.
When the word someone uses to make it stop is ignored. That’s not a moral claim of mine, it’s in a ruling.
In K.A. and A.D. v. Belgium, judgment of 17 February 2005, a judge and a doctor complained to the European Court of Human Rights about their conviction for serious assault during sadomasochistic sessions. The Belgian court of appeal had called the facts particularly serious because of the violence and because of the pain, the fear and the humiliation inflicted on the victim. The Court first established what often gets forgotten: criminal law should in principle not interfere in sexual practices that were consented to, and “particularly serious reasons” are needed for that.
Then the Court named two things that had gone wrong in this case. The people involved drank large amounts of alcohol during the sessions, so that they lost all control of the situation. And they had ignored the victim calling “pitié” and “stop”, the words by which, under their own agreement, they had to stop immediately. The appeal was rejected unanimously, and the Court added the line the whole subject rests on: whoever claims the right to live out their sexuality as freely as possible runs into the limit of the other’s will, whose own right to free choice must be protected just as much.
For an evening with humiliation, that is very practical. It’s not the weight of what happens that decides whether it’s still play, but whether the agreed word works. Anything that makes that word unreliable, alcohol first of all, takes the play away without anyone noticing at the time.
“Humiliation and degradation are the same.” No. Humiliation only says that someone comes to stand lower, and that can be one teasing remark. Degradation removes the rank order entirely and turns a person into a thing.
“If it’s agreed, nothing can go wrong.” The ruling above shows why that isn’t true. There was an agreement and there was a safeword; the problem was that nobody listened to it anymore. An agreement is an instrument, not a guarantee.
“Only people with low self-esteem want this.” There’s no evidence for that. What is true is the timing: anyone who’s just taken a blow to something that touches her identity is better off leaving humiliation for now. That says something about the month, not about her character.
“It’s just name-calling.” With name-calling nothing is fixed and nothing stops on its own. Humiliation has a beginning, a range chosen up front, a word that stops it, and a moment where someone is called by her own name again.
I’m Victor, a gigolo, over twenty-five years in BDSM and trained as a psychotherapist. Humiliating isn’t my thing, and I write that on my own profile too: in my daily life everything turns on empowerment, and I never shout. Correctional taps, hair-pulling, being addressed as “sir”, all of that is fine.
Almost every woman who raises this starts with an explanation. Why she wants it, where she thinks it comes from, whether it’s bad that she wants it. That explanation isn’t needed as far as I’m concerned, and once that’s said the conversation runs a lot more smoothly.
The second thing I see back: the scene gets overrated and the day after underrated. On the night itself almost nobody startles. Two days later there’s sometimes something still sitting there, and that’s why I’d rather talk about this a week ahead than ten minutes.
On this site, degradation covers the heavier branch, and the power of shame describes what it feels like to share something you’re ashamed of.
Off this site, the judgment in K.A. and A.D. v. Belgium can be read in full, and the WNT entry VERNEDEREN shows in one screen how this word moved from mountains to people.
Humiliation isn’t on my list, and I’d rather say that right away than halfway through a conversation. What is possible are the small forms around it: an agreed form of address, correctional taps, hair-pulling, and an evening where the rank order is clear without anything ugly being said. If you want to know how that conversation goes beforehand and what exactly we set down, that’s on the page about the BDSM date.
Frequently asked questions
Humiliation is putting someone, with their consent, lower than the other, in posture, in rank or in words, because that drop is arousing for both. The Dutch word vernedering literally means to make lower. Within BDSM the drop lasts as long as agreed, and in the scene it’s also called erotic humiliation.
From the Dutch neder with the prefix ver-, and the oldest meaning is spatial. The Woordenboek der Nederlandsche Taal gives vernederen first for mountains, walls and water levels that drop, and only then for people who bow or kneel. To dishonor someone sits only ninth in that same series, with a 1545 dictionary translating the Latin humilio (the root of the English humiliation) as vernederen.
Because for an hour nothing is expected of you and because humiliation lands hard. Marte Otten and Kai J. Jonas of the University of Amsterdam measured brain activity for scenarios about humiliation, anger and joy, and found the clearly highest intensity for humiliation. In a scene you borrow that dial temporarily, which explains why a small act does so much.
The moment the word someone uses to make it stop gets ignored. In the case of K.A. and A.D. v. Belgium, judgment of 17 February 2005, the European Court of Human Rights weighed exactly that, together with the large amounts of alcohol that made the people involved lose all control. The Court held that the freedom to live out your sexuality is bounded by the other’s will.
Victor, a gigolo in the Netherlands, Belgium and Germany, over twenty-five years active in BDSM and trained as a psychotherapist. Humiliating isn’t on his list and he says so right away; what is possible are the light forms around it, like an agreed form of address, hair-pulling and correctional taps. You can ask him about it with no obligation through the contact form or first chat for free.
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